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Zombie WIP, part 2

MiscPosted by Mattias Tue, January 17, 2012 08:37:10
Last time we saw these guys, I had spent about 2 hours on them, doing base coats. As promised, the next step was indeed to finish up the base coats with wood, metals and a few other things (boots, pants etc). About 30 minutes was spent on this, so that's 2.30 so far!

Next, the magic step. The Devlan Mud step! With a big brush, I just soak the whole figure in Devlan Mud. Being foul undead, I'm not too bothered by this - but I wouldn't have done this on a fancy elf. In addition to Devlan Mud, I do additional washes with Brown Wash (the old bottles with a blue cap) and Badab Black as well as Black Wash. About another 30 minutes for this step and 3 hours in total.

Once the models have been shaded with wash, I start cleaning up and finishing off individual parts of each individual model. It's quite different from the previous steps so I can't really give any descriptions but here's a sequence of pictures. The general aproach is to clean up each area with the base colour and then highlight it with a layer or two of lighter shades of the base colour. I washed the skin parts another time with purple wash too.



Finally, the models are finished. I spent about 5 hours all in all on them so far. Still have bases to do and a shield for the armoured fellow.


Not exactly happy with them, but they'll do the job. That's standard fare for me and my finished minis. I need to base them and let them rest for a while before I start to like them. The Bob Olley skeleton/zombie however will probably remain my least favourite model ever for a long time. There were even traces of fingerprints on the back of the model!

I'll post proper photos once the guys are based up and all done. After that, I'll paint MORE zombies! I'll have some variation though, as the ones I'm painting next are a newer edition sculpted by Gary Morley. Probably my least favourite sculptor of all time. I was about to call him the Herb Trimpe of Games Workshop, but had a change of heart as Trimpe is more like Olley. Oddly proportioned and a weird style, but their work have an oldschool charm.

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Posted by Mattias Wed, January 18, 2012 15:19:12

Fully agree, Copplestone is really spot on when it comes to my preference. Slightly comicy, but not overly exaggerated. I love the human blocker models, it's a shame they don't fit in the current rules. =(

Posted by sho3box Wed, January 18, 2012 11:31:59

I do tend to waffle a bit when talking about the hobby that I obsess so much about. Massive blog comments occupy a peculiar place in terms of etiquette: I dont know if people want that sort of thing or not (not that I always feel the urge to blather on, although this post is already starting to).


The jumping jack and running-on-the-spot poses are definitely one of the poorer elements of some of the Morley sculpts, thats for sure.


Call me sentimental but comparison with 2nd Ed Blood Bowl human figures is going to be rough on most sculpts: I love those guys.

Posted by Mattias Tue, January 17, 2012 20:35:32

Blimey Paul, that was quite a defence speech there! =) I do however agree with you, I actually removed any invective before posting. From what I've gathered Gary seems to be a rather nice bloke - I actually read that post of his on Warseer. While Nagash is irksome, what I always disliked most is the X-shaped stance most of his humanoid sculpts have. That and the oversized weaponry, but I guess we can't fault the man for GW design managment decisions.


That said, there are several rather cool sculpts. The zombies he did for WHFB aren't among them. Nor are his ghouls. Well, the ghouls are nice - but those oversized bones they're toting?!


The wights from his Undead Blood Bowl team are great models, so are some of the orcs (the blitzers). Very dynamic and cool.


Still, I don't really like his sculpting style and I will take the 2nd edition Blood Bowl minis over any he did.


Regarding painting - yeah, the new washes really help. I've always done the basecoat, wash, basecoat again then highlights thing. It just works better now. To tell the truth, I could probably get away with a basecoat and then stop after the wash step. As you say, it's not that far from dipping. Fully agree with you that dipping is undeservedly frowned upon. I have a can of dip around, I've used it on two models. A War of The Ring olog-hai and a 3rd edition Griff Oberwald. Wasn't too happy with it and prefer the method I'm using now. I could probably speed up a bit if I did a basecoat and two layers of highlights and then washed with greater care.


Thanks for the long comment btw, I do love writing lengthy pieces of text and it's fun when someone else takes the time to match me. =)

Posted by sho3box Tue, January 17, 2012 13:14:00

I have never timed how long it takes me to paint a figure: I dread to think. I was never a fast painter and for years I have painted while half watching TV which slows things down even further, so maybe its best that I never know. Having read these posts I guess that it takes me similar lengths of time to paint various stages as it takes you Mattias.


Your basecoat/wash/highlight is very similar to my approach too. Since the "new" Citadel Washes hit the market I think that most mid-level (as in not Golden Demon but also not that-half-painted-and-assembled-army-that-made-you-wince-at-a-convention level) painters apprioach painting in a fashion something like this.


Its funny that so many people rant and rave about using "the dip" with miniatures, yet applying a Devlan Mud wash is in many respects the same thing.


I met Gary Morley at a convention a few years ago and my negative attitude to much of his sculpting was tempered by coming into contact with him as a human being, if you know what I mean.


Therefore in an uncharacteristic display of empathy I am going to humbly suggest that you take a look at this: http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/blog.php?b=471


Good luck with the Morley zombies. I have painted a few and they were uninspiring. They were painted as part of a big speedily painted batch so it didnt matter much. They are some of my oldest zombie figures and have seen a lot of action over the years so I am quite fond of them anyway.


I also have a Gary Morley figure that I recently got in my painting queue. Its basically a Necromunda version of Nagash, but done properly, Karloth Valois. It is in fact a fantastic sculpt with some very nice fine detail (the quilted undershirt is particularly nice but hard to see in the photo).


http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/File:Karloth_Valois.jpg


Not that I am president of the Gary Mrley fanclub or anything, but credit where credit is due and all that :)